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Originally Posted by BMW X5
and just one more side note, if you came here for a better life why jeopardize that? why do that crystal meth or own that gun if there is a chance it could be used against you?
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The reality in cases like this is that these kids often come here at such a young age they're completely unaware that they're "at risk" because they're not U.S. citizens - some of them actually believe that they ARE U.S. citizens until they find out that they're not. The teenager popped for crystal meth was surpised as hell when U.S. Immigration started trying to deport her. She had just assumed that she was a citizen because she came here when she was so little and had been here for so long.
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Though I am fully against illegal immigration, for some reason the group in question of this discussion seems to be swarming with more bad than good.
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I understand the perception, but I don't think that's the reality. In my experience, the ratio of bad vs. good is about the same, whether you're looking at U.S. citizens, legal immigrants, or illegal immigrants. I think the perception is caused by the fact that there is a definite positive correlation between poverty and crime and some segments of the immigrant population (both legal and illegal) are very poor. Because of this, the crime rates are higher in those areas. People point to this and say "See! Illegal immigrants are criminals!" However, this is more of a poverty issue than it is an immigration issue. You see pretty much the same crime rates in poor areas that don't have significant immigration populations.
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The problem with this situation is that now everyone is being reverse discriminated against because illegals are now claiming we dont like them and we are bad and if i say something about them then i'm a racist right?
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Unfortunately, there are quite a few racist groups who are backing the anti-immigration movement. They view it as a way of kicking out all the brown people without saying "we want to kick out the brown people". Because of this, whenever I see someone backing the anti-immigration movement, I want to know what their reasoning is. If it's circular, or non-existent, then I start suspecting that they are more "anti-brown" or "anti-accent" than "anti-immigrant"
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and i get the civil liberties activists on my @$$ where are my rights why are they privi to more than i am? i didnt say they dont deserve to live or eat but they have NO RIGHT to restrict me. as per the article i posted earlier it seems they want a civil rights movement? WHAT THE F for? The blacks were here brought here AGAINST their will, put to work AGAINST their will killed for disobeying their "masters". When they were freed what the F are they supposed to do? they were as much rightful citizens as the guy next door.
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I agree, actually. I'm all for allowing many of the illegal immigrants to stay because I think they are beneficial to this country. However, I'm having trouble swallowing some of the self-righteous rhetoric.
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I'm a jew and guess what in WWII a ship filled with jews fleeing europe came to shore in the US and was turned away, sent the F*$K back and you know what happened to them? They were killed what threat did they pose? they were fleeing from being killed. what are the mexicans fleeing from? poverty? guess what it aint better here we have plenty of our own problems. no one brought them here against their will, no one tried to kill 6 million of them or put them to slavery why do they think they deserve something? we dont owe them $H!T,
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I agree. If they are allowed to stay, it should be because they are beneficial to
us, not because they "deserve" it.
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Get a medical check we have enough diseases here, get a sponsor someone who will vouch for you and your actions and will support you until you get up on your feet, and DONT take advantage of welfare we have plenty of those.
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Absolutely - but these requirements are already in pretty much all of the immigration reform bills currently being discussed. Medical clearance, criminal/security screening, and financial support are the basice requirements which
must be met by any alien wanting to come to the U.S.
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