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Originally Posted by BMW X5
see i am ranting about the ones that are fully illegal, if one child is illegal yet has a family here that is legal he should be granted a visa that family should vouch for him/her but explain to me how a child of 8 is not legal while the rest are?
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How that happens is complicated and there's more than one way it can happen. Trust me. Immigration law is extremely convoluted and some of the ways the various laws interract is pretty bizarre.
Up until 2001, there was a provision that would allow someone like this who had fallen through the cracks to become legal by paying a $1000 penalty. The $ was used to help fund the agency. It was an elegantly simple solution. Congress allowed the law to sunset because the anti-immigrant lobby complained it was rewarding illegal immigrants.
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as for deporting only one person well that gets tricky if a whole family is here illegaly i know i hate to say it kicking them out is harsh but letting them stay is the reason the rest of them keep coming in.
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That is a very common perception - and one of the reasons Congress made things so much more difficult for illegal aliens in 1996. The belief was that if we just made it impossible to ever become legal, they would stop coming. Well, that was nearly 10 years ago and so far the tougher laws have had exactly ZERO effect on the rate of illegal immigration.
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and explain to me how an illegal would be doing cancer research? if that person is in research they should be allowed to come here on a student visa not hop the border i'm sorry but i wont hop the border and decide im doing cancer research after all it takes a little bit of knowledge and education for that to happen.
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This guy was actually my roommate when I was a freshman. He came here with his family when he was 9 years old. He had scars on his back from crawling under a barbed wire fence at the border. He got his undergraduate degree here, went to medical school, then stayed at the school as a post-doc doing cancer research. He can't legalize his status because he entered the country illegally. I kind of think it's more beneficial to
us to keep him here, instead of sending him back to Mexico to "punish" him for entering illegally when he was 9 - but that's just me.
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and just to clarify i am not for the idea of these people doing time in our prisons either we have plenty of our own to deal with if they deport them it should be done without the nonsence...
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So are you saying it would be OK with you if my "stupid teenager" had just been deported
instead of doing jail time and diversion? If that's what you're saying, that's pretty harsh, IMO.
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but more importantly they need to seal the border
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That's easy to say; a lot harder to do. Any attempt to "seal the border" without addressing the reasons underlying illegal immigration is just going to make the smugglers rich. I'm actually in favor of increasing border security, but I don't believe for a moment that we will EVER be able to "seal it" until we significantly reduce the number of people trying to cross it.
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and they need to make an example if no prescedent is set then how is this going to get resolved?
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"setting an example" doesn't work - nobody's looking at the example. This has been tried numerous times over the years and it has had exactly ZERO effect on the levels of illegal immigration.
How is it going to get resolved? - As I said before, we need to figure out why these people are coming here. We need to create the means to legally immigrate for the people who provide a net socio-economic benefit and create the means to keep everyone else out. Easy to say, harder to do - but I think it CAN be done.
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