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Originally Posted by JCL
Hmmm, we should probably get back to BMWs. Quick answers:
Response 1: The Discovery Series II came out in 1998. The 2001 redesign was not called a Series III. Some called it a 2.5. The wheelbase changed, third row seating was now possible in practice and not just in theory, the tail lights were mounted higher, there was an active suspension option to keep it from heeling so much in the corners, etc. The engine was further refined according to Landrover (and yes, I agree with that, it was better than the 2000 version).
Response 2: Yes, it was a TD5. Not the original LandRover diesel that carried on in the Defender series for some time, but the new design that was not finalized when BMW purchased Landrover. BMW was involved in the product development. The engine had modern features like electronic unit injectors, and so on, making it very current at the time. The BMW connection was promoted by the UK dealers (since it was not the same version as the old LandRover engine, they referred to it as the BMW version). I agree that it was not developed by BMW. I can't imagine the Bavarian engineers quietly accepting a 5 cylinder design.
The link you provided refers to the 1999 version of the TD5 engine, not the later redesign.
Jeff
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You say"lets talk about Bmw",yet both your responses are mainly about the Disco!I will reply nevertheless!
1.After I give you some data,you now say that the Disco had a change in 1998,whilst in your post #25 you say it was in 2001!Dont bring restyling into this since the debate here is engines,and Diesel not DI petrol!
The Disco had the TD5 engine from 1998 thru to the latest LR3!
You are all wrong ,Jeff,!I never said that the engine was better than the 2000 version!How could I?I mean,the Disco had the VM engine up to 1998,after this came the TD5!Nothing refined here!It was a completely new LR ONLY engine!
2.Talking about contradicting yourself!Was it or was it not developed by Bmw?The Real 2.5 Bmw engine was in the RR and that was a 6-cylinder,as I told you remember!
You dont need to tell me about the TD5 engine!I gave you the link?
Never heard the TD5 engine being called BMW!Fiat bought out Ferrari a while ago,never heard of a Fiat engine Ferrari !Although Fiat did put the Ferrari V8 in a Lancia!
It was never "the old LR engine",it was a VM Italian design!
I agree with you,a 5-cylinder Diesel Bmw wouldnt look good,which why Bmw left the TD5 in the Disco and used their own,smooth but 20 year old 2.5-I6 in the top of the range RR!
The link I gave you is for ALL versions of the TD5 the non-Bmw engine in question here!The engine you so heavily criticise!
The later Disco version has RR own design!