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Old 08-15-2006, 05:48 PM
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most of those countries would consider themselves industrialized. specifically, all.

also, what you list below is not a war. no congressional resolution/presdential declaration/etc. yes, possibly foreign policy, but not war. the USSR and china have a very similar list, only four times longer.

your point?


here's my suggestion. why don't you go over to Lebanon and talk with Hezbollah? come back and tell us what they say....


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Originally Posted by Eric5273
Whether or not they declare it as an "official" war, I do not care. Sending troops overseas and attacking a country is considered "war".

So besides the ones you list, we have:

1956: Marines sent into Egypt to seize control of Suez Canal.

1958: 14,000 Marines occupy Lebanon and fight against rebels

1958: Marines sent to Panama to protect dictatorship from rebels

1959: Marines sent to Haiti to protect dictator from communist rebels - they stay in Haiti until 1963

1960: Covert special ops team invades Conga and overthrows and assassinates democractically elected Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba

1962: 5,000 Marines sent to Thailand to fight against communist rebels

1964: Marines again sent to Panama again to prop up dictatorship

1964: Marines sent to Brazil to give support for military coup and overthrow of democratically elected president

1965: 20,000 Marines sent to the Dominican Republic to help the dictatorship fight against rebels. Air Force also bombs. Marines stay there for more than a year.

1968-1970: US Air Force bombs Cambodia

1970: US troops participate along with Iranian marines as they invade Oman

1970: US troops invade Cambodia

1971: US Air Force carpet-bombs Laos

1975: US Air Force bombs Cambodia again

1976: US troops assist South-African backed rebels in Angola

1981: US troops invade El Salvador to help dictatorship fight against rebels

1983: Marines invade and occupy Greneda

1986: US Air Force bombs Libya

1989: Marines invade Panama and overthrow General Noriega's dictatorship and install new dictatorship

1992: US troops invade Somalia to help fight against one faction in a civil war

1998: US Air Force bombs Sudan and Afghanistan

2001: US troops invade Afghanistan after a month-long bombing campaign

2003: US troops invade Liberia and remove President Charles Taylor from power

2004: US troops invade Haiti and remove democratically elected president Aristide from power

And that is not even counting all the covert operations such as the support for Al-Queda in Afghanistan during the 1980s, or support for the Contras, or support for various military coups like the one in Chile in 1973.




If you notice, I said "industrialized countries". Your list there is a bunch of third world countries and a few former soviet republics. But I suppose the former soviet republics qualify as industrialized.

Care to post the murder rates for the countries in Western Europe, or for Canada, or even Japan or China? You know...countries that are on par with the United States as far as what we consider "civilized".




Yes, and we just keep packing more and more people away in jails. In 1973, there were 7 prisons here in New York State. Today there are 73 prisons in New York State. And the population of New York has not grown since 1973. The rest of the country has seen a similar trend.
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