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Old 08-23-2006, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric5273
That's right...you do not believe in polls. But yes, when they take polls that is indeed the result.

An example of this is the war in Iraq. Polls show that more than half of those who currently support the Iraq war also believe Saddam Hussein was responsible for the 9/11 attacks, and more than 75% believe WMDs were found in Iraq, where as less than 5% of those who are currently against the war believe either of those two things.

Another example is welfare and its relation to taxes. When polled, most of those who are against welfare think that the amount of money spent on it is much higher than it actually is. When told what percentage of their taxes actually pays for welfare, the percentage of people against welfare drops by more than half.

Another example is the military. When polled, most people who think we need to increase the military budget think there are many other countries who spend more than we do. When told that we actually spend more than 8 times any other country, the number of people who still think we should increase the military drops to less than 10% of the original number.

Another example is stem cell research. When polled, most people who are against using embryonic stem cells in research are unaware that thousands of embryonic stem cells are discarded (i.e. killed) by fertillity clinics each year. When told this, the number of people against embryonic stem cell research dramatically drops.

I could go on and on. But what this shows is that people form their opinions on facts, or what they believe to be the facts. Many opinions are formed on incorrect assumptions or lack of knowledge of the facts. When given the same facts, most people have the same opinions.

And yes, abortion and same-sex marriage are issues that are different in that people's opinions have nothing to do with "facts" but more to do with religious faith. But I am talking about issues such as the ones I stated above, such as foreign policy, budget issues, etc.
We did find WMD's in Iraq. I KNOW of 3 instances where mustard (blister agent) and sarin (nerve agent) were used in I.E.D.'s. One example is where the sarin IED was bip'd (blown in place) and the shrapnel was put in the hummer for the ride back to the air base. Just down the road the 2 EOD troops started experiencing nerve agent symptoms. They gave themselves the atropine/2 pam chloride injections to save their life. It was later revealed that a sarin binary weapon was used as the IED. The other two instances were similar except using mustard. Bet you didn't even know any of this happened did you? I knew within 1 hour of this happening and 3 nights later there was a 15 second mention of it on CBS. HMMM, wonder why the liberal media downplayed that one. We will find more WMD's or eventually find evidence that they were shipped to Syria before the war. Where do you think the insurgents got the 3 chem weapons? Out of a gumball machine? Hussein is now standing trial for the murder of thousands of Kurds using sarin. He had possesion of it then, that's proven. He didn't use all of his chem stockpiles on the Kurds so what do you think he did with the rest of it? Gave it to weapons inspectors? My personal opinion is he had a select 50 or so troops transport the stockpile to a secret location in the vast desert, buried it all and subsequently shot them to hide the evidence. He could have had one of his leaders arrange that so that even he couldn't eventually reveal the location under interogation. At some point terrorists will obtain these weapons wherever they may be, in Syria or hidden in the desert. 5 or 10 years from now you'll look back & say, " I honestly didn't think he really had them".
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