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Originally Posted by blondboinsd
The POINT is we're already hated and for good reason, if we REALLY think it needs to be changed we should work with the other countries not just do it alone, that is why we are so disliked in the first place, also we ALSO imprisoned japanese people in internment camps or we're you playing hookie that day your class went over that?
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The imprisonment of Japanese-Americans, while wrong, is a spurious analogy. Those were not foreign enemy combatants. Those were American citizens. Tax-payers. Law-abiding citizens. That was a terrible policy decision. But, as you pointed out, they were IMPRISONED, not tortured.
The U.S. is "hated" by the Muslim world largely for these reasons:
1. Our consistent support of the state of Israel since its founding in 1948.
2. Our support of secular, fairly ruthless dictators in the Middle East (e.g., the Shah of Iran and Saddam Hussein) during the period beginning after WW II through the 1980s. These 2 guys, plus other less important figures, brutalized their populations and kept a lid on fundamental Islamic ideology and behavior in their countries.
3. Operation Desert Storm, which was viewed as an "invasion" of a sovereign Arab/Muslim nation. And even worse, the fact that we stationed large numbers of American troops in the "holiest" Islamic country (Saudi Arabia) during and after the Gulf War.
4. A view that the West (and America, in particular) breeds and EXPORTS fundamentally immoral, decadent cultural practices such as alcohol use, promiscuous sex, homosexuality, dancing, women being treated as "men", etc. On that last point, it is viewed as repugnant that a woman can wear "skimpy" clothing (i.e., not cover herself head-to-toe with clothing), pursue an education, eat dinner in the same restaurant as men, and hold political office.
Blondboi, if you attempted to pursue your way of life in the Muslim world, you would be tortured and beheaded in a New York minute.
Point #3 above, in particular, is what led to the birth and rise of Al-Quaida.
The alleged "torture" of enemy combatants by the United States began WELL AFTER we were already "hated".