I see two tongue in cheek remarks by Guiness and Inlacal and suddenly this becomes an oil discussion. Nice going, Eric. Try cutting down on the coffee.

The shooting incidents in U.S. schools is alarming. That's now 4 killings in 3 months.

* Oct. 2: A gunman took a group of girls hostage at a one-room Amish schoolhouse in Pennsylvania's Lancaster County, killing five, including two who died the next day. The shooter, Charles Carl Roberts IV, 32, killed himself.

* Sept. 29: Fifteen-year-old Eric Hainstock brought two guns to a school in rural Cazenovia, Wis., and fatally shot the principal, a day after the principal gave him a disciplinary warning for having tobacco on school grounds, police said.

* Sept. 27: Duane Morrison, 53, took six girls hostage at Platte Canyon High School in Bailey, Colo. Morrison sexually assaulted them and used them as human shields for hours before fatally shooting one girl and killing himself.

* Aug. 24: Christopher Williams, 27, went to an elementary school in Essex, Vt., looking for his ex-girlfriend, a teacher. He couldn't find her and fatally shot one teacher and wounded another, police said. Williams also killed his ex-girlfriend's mother, according to authorities. He shot himself twice in the head after the rampage and was arrested.

I respect the courage and conviction of the Amish people. By evenings end on the day of the incident, most of the Amish had given prayer and forgiveness to the shooter. A lot more of this world could certainly use a good dose of moral value.

One thing that I've always wondered - of all of the killers convicted, what percentage have a religious upbringing?

Was Charles Carl Roberts IV a church-goer? Was his grudge against the Amish way of life or did he bear a grudge against the school or a particular person associated with the school?

I guess we'll have to wait for the details to unfold.