The M3 conversation was started here and thats where i am going to talk about it. I dont need to go to the M3 board because i dumped that time bomb you call an M3 and am waiting for the New V8 M3 or V10 M6. Not sure yet which i want. But when i get a new m3 that is when i will go back to the M3 board. But hopefully the new engines will be as reliable as other Mcars like the E36 and E39s. I currently have an E39 M5 and that is an engine you can not kill. I loved my M3 but i wasnt about to wait around until it blew up again out of warranty. It was not worth the worry. And i hate how BMW handled the entire S54 ordeal and i wish i could make myself go out and buy an audi or mercedes but even with all the problems BMWs have for me there is no substitute for an Mcar Made by BMW. No AMG or S or RS or whatever comes close.