the ride on the 20's are way diff. it prob feels nuttin' like the 17's or even the 18's. it's a real tight ride especially around the cornering. i luv them especially when people usually stop me or give me the thumbs up on how they look. i promise you they never went thru a carwash unless i did them by hand. they are in exceptional shape for being like 3 years old. if u are interested give me a call on my cell in ny (914)879-3536. pain in the ass to do all this typing- i would rather just tell you over the phone. and don't forget to check out my pics, i'm not sure if you already did on the gallery link.