exactly what I'm trying to say, a doctor needs to get all the training, they dont have the mumbo jumbo bullcrap, they study biology, they study the body they study how we work they practice they learn, a computer guy or an analyst does not need this to succeed. all you need is a little patience, understanding and will. again i'm still fresh out of school but i've worked for some people who had less education than I did and who knew less than I did what does that say for a college educated graduate?