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rebound · #6 01-14-2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric5273

This is the first time I have read this sort of thing. Very interesting. Carter's organization was not the only ones monitoring the elections. There were a dozen or so organizations, and all said the elections were fair. But I'd still be curious to read more about this if you have any other links.

Seriously? This is the first time? Wow. Very old news.

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Originally Posted by Eric5273

I just do find it interesting that your article also points out how the 2004 elections had the same inconsistancies. And they are right about exit polling being a pretty exact science. If their exit polling numbers are indeed as lobsided as they say, then I would agree that this is evidence that the election was stolen.

But I was not even talking about the recall election. I was talking about the election last month in Venezuela. Even Chavez's opponents admitted that he won that election by a landslide. There was no dispute at all.

Chavez wins 6 more years as Venezuela's president
Landslide victory bolsters leftist leadership in Latin America -- international observers report no serious problems with election

Not exactly that you were talking about, but interesting none the less:

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Would you feel the same about President Bush amending the Constitution to allow a third term?

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Would you feel the same if President Bush shut down CNN for opposing him in an election (especially if it wasn't true)?

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So, Venezuelans don't trust their electronic voting machines, but we should allow a Venezuelan-owned company run our electronic voting machines?

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Originally Posted by Eric5273

If the oil companies used their profits to pay for health care, education, and other social spending that would help the American people, then I would indeed praise them.

Growing the economy only helps the people if the extra money is going to benefit them. Spending itself as an idea does not benefit anyone. It depends on what the money is being spent on.

In the case of the oil companies, very little of their spending is even domestic. Their largest domestic spending is probably on lobbyists and campaign contributions in Washington.

"Probably?" Gotcha.

So you don't believe that when a corporation spends money, it helps the whole economy. Fits with your other beliefs. Let's just say here's one more point of disagreement between us. I don't think the government should be in the business of saving people from themselves, i.e. welfare. That's all Chavez is doing. That, and he's only doing it for the publicity. He could give two shizzles otherwise.

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