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Originally Posted by rebound
So you don't believe that when a corporation spends money, it helps the whole economy.
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As a general statement, no I don't believe that.
They could be spending money on becomming more automated so that they can lay off 10,000 workers next month.
It depends what they are spending their money on.
Yes, if they hire more employees, then that does indeed help the economy.
If they spend money on purchasing goods that are made in the United States, then that helps the economy.
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Originally Posted by rebound
Fits with your other beliefs. Let's just say here's one more point of disagreement between us. I don't think the government should be in the business of saving people from themselves, i.e. welfare.
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Yes, you think the government should instead spend the money on jailing these children when they grow up to be criminals.
Instead, I think the government should do what needs to be done to ensure that these children grow up to be productive members of society.
Either one of those alternatives would be better than the current system, where the government spends not-enough money in a half-assed attempt to help their lives that doesn't work, and then later still pays for the jailing of them when they grow up to become criminals.
Indeed, we have a disagreement.
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Originally Posted by rebound
That's all Chavez is doing. That, and he's only doing it for the publicity. He could give two shizzles otherwise.
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You have no proof of that at all. They said the same thing about Martin Luther King Jr, Ghandi, Nelson Mandella, and the Chinese government says the same thing about the Dali Lama. They are all just big self promoters.
Nobody could possibly do something good because they are just a good person. But I'm sure once he is dead, then they will say he was a good person. Liberals are only good once they are dead. When they are alive, they are called self-promoters. When they are dead, they are fallen heros.
Go find a positive article in the mainstream press about Martin Luther King Jr. that was written before he was killed. You will not find one. They all criticized him as a self-promoter, as a communist, and they called him every name in the book. He was even accused of being a racist.
Same thing with Ghandi. He was called a terrorist, and an instigator of violence.
Che Guevera. When he was alive, he was one of the worst people in the world. Now that he's dead, he was voted one of the greatest people of the 20th Century by Time Magazine. But go read their articles about him when he was alive.
It comes back to that basic idea. It is apparently very difficult for Americans to believe that someone could possibly be good without any alterior motive or personal gain to be had. Everything in our culture is about greed and money and selfishness. When someone does something good, there must be an angle of some sort.
When Chavez comes to the US and offers to give heating oil to poor Americans at cost, he is just being a self promoter. Obviously his great effort at self promotion has not helped his reputation in the United States. But just perhaps, he really is doing these things to help the people that are indeed being helped by what he does. Just perhaps....