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Your civil war dosent count becouse they were all Americans. You lost the war of 1812 and Hitler killed him self when the Russians were at his door step not Americans. I guess you lost that race as well. I dont know much about Korea but you lost Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq. Is that not valid enough?
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 love that, the war doesn't count because..... 
As for the Russians were at his door...that was because he was getting TORCHED on every single front, the only door left was Russia. Had Germany not been in a fight with every other nation, Russia would have been lost to Germany.
As for Afghanistan and Iraq, definition of "winning" really depends on what your agenda was. If you defined winning in Iraq by removing Saddam...we won. If you consider winning in Afghanistan as removing the Taliban from power, we did that as well. If you define winning as coming in and creating stable peace loving countries that drink wine and collect art, then no...we didn't succeed....  poor US.
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