it's almost impossible to get a good deal in vancouver if u don't have connections(talking about new model). You can wait for 08 and pick up a 07, but expect 2-3k off at most. I think there is a Full loaded 4.8I in BJ. It's Black can't remember the interior, u can check it out. But quite frankly, the price of a fully loaded 4.8i is right up there with the ML63, i think the ml is a better deal by a long shot