Thanks for the feedback. I haven't tried the E70 yet as it's not launched here til next week so will reserve judgement until then. Thinking about not getting them as I think the car will look a little more understated which in London is a good thing (4X4/SUV's are not flavour of the month with the green lobby in the UK) and I think that getting dirty trousers every time I get in and out of the car in winter will be annoying!