i think you might be able to get some discount on the x5 but not much. i went to the dealer in sydney and i was quoted 2k discount on a fully loaded x5. in the end i decided on a convertible in sydney and x5 in the states. so try to get some discount or wait a month or two since there are still some problems with these early x5s. but then again. 2k off a 140k car really isnt much.