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Old 04-19-2007, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by WagnerX5
I love how people run around to place blame: oh teachers knew this, police saw that, people reported this....that is all crap. You know how many people could be singled out as "suspect" with those types of reasoning. I remember when I was in 5th grade my teacher sent a letter to my parents, the first day of school, saying she thought something was 'off' with me. Why?? Because I didn't laugh at the jokes she told in class. So what, should I have been indefinitely tracked? Please......why is it sooooo hard to understand that this is NOT utopia and crazy people do commit crimes.

And I would place 90% of the blame, for almost any issue, on parenting. I have seen some stuff in my life where I don't know how I wasn't arrested...all I can summarize is that my parents did a great job in guiding me on where to be and what to be doing when I was young. The 'good' parent in the US is like the Polar Bear, marching into extinction. Parents have been replaced in our society by MySpace and reality TV..plain and simple. Parental supervision, replaced by a cell number and e-mail address. Kids today probably know more about their friend then their parents and more about life from what they saw Paris Hilton do then what their mom is doing.

My father works in the educational system and listen to what he told me yesterday:

" I was walking through the hall to the guidance office when I heard a young voice yelling 'f_ck you, you don't f_cking tell me what to do. I'll kick your f_cking @ss'. I came around the corner and saw a 8 year old boy, who then looked at me and said what the f_ck are you looking at?"

That was an eight year old!! That..is what leads to crime, shootings, and almost every other conveniently named 'society ill'. Along with the follow up question of 'why couldn't the government protect us from that'? It takes a village people.
If I had a nickle for every story my wife's told about f*^ked-up kids at her elementary school. Kids that wear the same dirty clothes all week and haven't bathed in longer, kids that curse at teachers, kids that say "Man I wish I could smoke!", kids that assault other kids - and this is all at the elementary school level. Don't tell me that's society - that's just poor parenting. Period.

I will never buy the "society" excuse for poor behavior. Man has the ability to rise above his conditions. Parents need to be held accountable for their (lack of) actions. Kids need to be held accountable for their actions, from the youngest age - I'm not talking jail, I'm talking good parenting, coupled with actual positive action in schools and public in general. I'm not afraid to tell a kid he's f*&king up in public. I'm also not shocked when I get cursed at by that kid - an example of good parenting instilling respect for elders.

Does society play a role? Yes.
Is it the scapegoat for poor behavior? Nope. That individual is.

We all have free will. Along with that, we have the responsibility to conduct ourselves in a socially acceptable manner.

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