i wrote the above lookin for some feedback on the unit. and i posted those two pics to give an idea of how it looks and was hoping to avoid the

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oh well. i'm doin somethin in there and will def post pics when done. just tryin to find the best unit, was also thinking about a PC, just puttin a touch screen up there and havin the pc in the back. but i think that would be more trouble than it's worth, been down that road with a friend.
ill post the links to his car when i find them. its an eclipse that he wrote voice activated software for picking songs.