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Originally Posted by rebound
Yeah, Marxist reforms are really the way to go. If you want to die, that is...
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Again using Canada as the example. Canada is the worst example of socialized medicine. In fact, Canada doesn't actually have socialized medicine. They have some half-system which is somewhat like what Hillary Clinton is proposing we do here. It doesn't work.
If you are going to use Canada as your poster child for socialized medicine, then how about using Mexico for your example of what privatized health care looks like.
Canada is a bankrupt lousy system which allows the private drug companies, private medical facilities, and private medical schools to run, but simply pays the high bill for everyone. Thus, they spend too much and have to make cuts to keep the budget down, so people have to wait to receive proper care.
How about using a system like Cuba as your example....a country that actually has real socialized medicine:
Health Care In Cuba More Complicated Than on SiCKO
Experts say that is because Cuba focused on prevention and because its universal free health care allows Cubans to see a doctor quickly and treat illness before it needs costly procedures.
On key statistics measured by the World Health Organization, Cuba is in line with the United States.
The average life expectancy of a child born in Cuba is 77.2 years, compared with 77.9 years in the United States, according to the WHO.
The number of children dying before their fifth birthday is seven per 1,000 live births in Cuba and eight per 1,000 in the United States.
Yet the United States spends more than 26 times as much on health, $6,096 per person a year, compared with only $229 in Cuba, the WHO figures show.
While Cuba has 73,000 doctors, twice as many doctors per capita as the United States, in recent years it has sent as many as 15,000 to work in the slums of Venezuela, its main political ally, in exchange for vital oil supplies.
Dr. David Hickey, a transplant surgeon at Beaumont Hospital in Dublin, said Cuba is a world leader in primary health care based on preventive medicine.
"It's a very sobering experience for someone coming from the affluent West to see what they can achieve," he said.
Hickey, an honorary professor of surgery at Havana University, said he had nothing to teach Cuban doctors who do heart, kidney, pancreas and liver transplants.
A decades-old U.S. trade embargo against Cuba forced it to develop its own molecular biology industry, which produces innovative drugs that prevent rejection in transplants.
Cuba has developed the world's first Meningitis B vaccine which is available in Third World countries but not in Europe or the United States due to U.S. sanctions.