I first went into my dealer thinking I could knock $AUD 2-3000 off the price.. I didn't do my research and didn't realise there was a backlog.. in the end I got free mats, window tint, titanium grilles, ipod cable and xenons at cost. So I was pretty lucky, Note that I am in Australia. It will be even harder with the new engines I owuld say.. they may do deals on the standard diesel though but I guess you don't want that one !