Eh dont know about manual. The TSX just seemed really small when I drove it. Same for the IS. Just looked up sample CPO prices for lexus and am surprised they hold their value so well.

Now I am wondering if convertable prices might go down some in the winter time.

Guess I will just have to go test driving this weekend and lurk in more forums.

Hahah used Nissan....youre right that does just sound...yeah...