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Originally Posted by AzX5
Hmmm, maybe or maybe not:
It should be noted, however, that the process is not yet considered a practical method of generating energy and quite possible never will be. According to a PESWiki article on the subject, the radio-wave generator consumes more energy than can be produced by the burning salt water. Some of the more enthusiastic reports on the invention tend to gloss over this fact. |
Yep...That has been the case with many of the new technologies aimed at energy independence. Here is an interesting article I found online addressing this issue.
"The good old formula E=MC2 tells us that there is more than enough energy in the universe for us to exploit. All we have to invent are the technologies that can achieve efficient conversion.
Let's now turn to an article I found regarding this process on the Web site
Desalination Research and Development:“Update: I talked on the phone to one of the scientists, Ed Apsega at APV Engineering in Akron Ohio. They tested John Kanzius process. I was told the flame burned at more than 1,700 degrees Celsius, or 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit. (It’s not clear to me currently as to whether the energy yield is more or less than 1:1. Why? Well, the APV Engineering scientist Ed Apsega said the energy yield was much more than 2:1, and later I talked to John Kanzius -- he said the energy yield was less than 1:1.)”
But in a later comment to “Fire From Salt Water,” we see this set of replies:
“June 1, 2007
"I am in the process of redesigning the electronics for the salt water as to see what efficiency we can achieve.
"Why does everyone think this is a form of electrolysis?
"Some scientists who have made comments on certain Web sites actually understand the mechanism of action.
“‘Regarding moving this forward, I want to see what are the best results we can achieve with joules in versus joules out. A chemist in Houston whom I know is going to be doing a couple of things for me this weekend.’ -- John Kanzius (June 01, 2007)
“June 06, 2007
John Kanzius writes:
“‘Since it appears we now have now achieved more than unity, I am going to do an embargo on releasing all further information.
“‘Actually, there are smart individuals who have posted on different Web sites and actually have a pretty good idea of what is happening.’”
Once again, there are two interpretations for those comments. Both are readily available on the Internet. Here they are:
- Kanzius is not talking, because his device is a hoax and has been disproved.
- Kanzius is not talking, because he is on the verge of success, if he has not achieved outright success.
I cannot say if Kanzius has achieved practical application success or not, but I am willing to say that this is not an outright hoax. I am also willing to suggest that practical application could be theoretically possible. Any physicists out there can feel free to chime in.
For those who think Mish is perpetually gloomy, I hope this article proves otherwise. I firmly believe that the free market, if left alone, will eventually solve the energy crisis, and most other problems as well. (Now can we please let the free market handle things?!)
Running a car on salt water may be impractical (or not), but running turbines to generate electricity is another matter. Regardless of practical application, we can all admire the spirit of John Kanzius. Everyone but the oil companies and oil exporters can wish him the best of luck in solving this problem.
Regards,
Mike Shedlock ~ “Mish” "