yeah, I should mention that the best deal I could get was 2250 over invoice on the X5, but I live in an area where they are selling at or close to MSRP. I had to contact 6 dealers to get this price.

I think I was offered 16,5 because they were still making decent $ on the 08.

I doubt I could have gotten more than 17k for the car on my own.

500 over invoice and 16,5 sounds like a great deal, I'd take it...