I was refering to the last generation, which was designed to compete against the 911.
And by the way, i never debated that the GTR is a bad car. as a matter of fact i recall calling it "a great driving car". Nevertheless its intention was to be something else.
The GTR I will insist is a great car, but can you honestly tell me that all nissans drive like that? do all toyotas dirve like a supra? Every model in a Japanese car manufacturer's lineup is designed to compete against others for market share, not according to their company's history. On the contrary all BMW's have very defined driving characteristics that makes them BMW's its not the badge, but this heritage that is their signature, from a 20K 1 Series to a 160K 7 Series. I think that engeneering-wise its even outstanding haw they copied this so faitfully into a 4x4.
We got into this "debate" because the report originally intended to compare MDX's to X5's, but it is doing so in an area outside of what an X5 is supposed to do, which is, like I said, make you smile every time you drive it. I think that the MDX fails far worse in that area than the X5 fails in reliability.