Originally Posted by primetime

Sure your Z4 falls into the same "class" as the S2000. But when you're driving around you don't say wow look at that nice S2000...No, thats because its just a Honda...Nothing outstanding and not a "real" head turner to those who know vehicles..Or most people in general..And if you think a Honda can match the engineering of a BMW, I have yet to see it, and I've owned 2 honda's and 1 acura before... That's what I mean when I say you pay for the brand...My X5 falls into the same class as my Infiniti Qx4 but its not as impressive as the X..in all phases, looks, performance, etc...Reliability wise they are about the same...I bought the X because of the brand and yes, the luxury..Sure Lexus's are luxurious..no one's denying that, but they struggle in exterior styling and I'd take the performance test BMW vs Lexus anyday....To each his own...