I'm sure soccerjunky has a picture that Michelle would love for what I think of it.

That works well if you want a car that is readily available, I went to a VW dealer, drove an R32, told them 2K under invoice, and got the bait and switch pulled on me right before signing on the dotted line 15 minutes later.

The two successful purchases I have made have been online. If its new, I offer XXXXX, they counter or accept, i go drive it, and buy it when I can go back (usually the next day or monday if I go on the weekend, i never shop in Maine.) If its used, I look at it first, then barter on how to get it a warrarnty.