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Old 02-09-2008, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by NIGHTMAREuki
lol, i know my history very well, i know how many Ukrainins died , 7-9 mil at least in winter 1933 from hunger only, thats about 1/4 of total population back then thanks to Stalin.....

WW2 is completely different from that is happening right now, you think Saddam could take over Europe, or Midde East?
No major country will start anything after Nukes were created, if USA invades Iran that will be begining of WW3, because i know for sure that they will retaliate, and not only there, but here using dirty bombs in OUR major cities. they will unite all muslims that USA invaded and ocupied and then Americans will know what war smells like.


As for Hitler, that nutcrack had to be stopped thinking that Aryan race is dominant, and the rest were nothing...... FDR couldnt wait to get involved in WW2 because of the pressure from banks who would make tons of money from it (like any other war USA is involved in)..... Rockefeller was already selling additives to Hitler from Standart Oil company he owned that allowed german planes to fly and bomb England.

sorry if its hard to read or understand i'm barely awake
Actually WWII and Hitlers rise in Germany was a direct result of the BS pulled on Germany during the end of WWI. Do you know in WWI that Germany, the nation, was completely 100% under control of the Germans and that Germany believed it was signing an armistice to remove its troops and end the war in other lands. However, France and others decided to turn the table on that one capitalizing on the foreseen uprisings by Germans in Germany. As a result Germany's infrastructure was controlled by outside forces when German lands had NEVER been taken. That is where Hitlers true power came from.

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Little Wiki info:
When Adolf Hitler received word from the French Government that they wished to negotiate an armistice, Hitler selected Compiègne Forest near Compiègne as the site for the negotiations. As Compiègne was the site of the 1918 Armistice ending the Great War with a humiliating defeat for Germany, Hitler saw using this location as a supreme moment of revenge for Germany over France.

In the very same railway carriage in which the 1918 Armistice was signed (removed from a museum building and placed on the precise spot where it was located in 1918), Hitler sat in the same chair that Marshal Ferdinand Foch had sat in when he faced the defeated German representatives. After listening to the reading of the preamble, Hitler - in a calculated gesture of disdain to the French delegates - left the carriage, leaving the negotiations to his OKW Chief, General Wilhelm Keitel.
Back to the topic. Recession today will be 10 fold harder to resolve then in the 1980's. Trade agreements by the US government have crippled the nation. These trade agreements led to outsourcing to compete and also drove foreign currency up, and the US dollar down. No amount of spending right now by consumers would help because the majority (vast majority) of the products are made in other countries. The trade policy has driven the nation to recession. We probably could have survived a real estate drop (as we have in the past) if we had a strong internal business structure. However the drive to compete by US businesses with foreign trade policies has led to the crumbling of the very systems that would have pulled the US out of recession. That is why foreign economies are currently so worried about the US economy. So much is now based on trade agreements.


PS: How you get to a WWIII:

Iran is attacked by Western forces, Russia then gets involved aiding Iran followed by China as the US recession crushed Chinas capability to operate and desperately needs alliances. Pakistan becomes over-run by the Taliban and 'insurgent style' forces. India, in its own serious depression as a result of the US recession, is determined to protect itself from Pakistan allies with the US. Japan changes policy to ally with the US against China, Syria then declares war on Israel and Lebanon, Saudi Arabia declares war on Iran...and so forth and so on........years later when it is all said and done you still will have Russia, US, Japan and China.....kind of pointless. The smart ones would be all of those living in South America.
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