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Old 05-07-2008, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by AzNMpower32
Uh, really? I knew someone would say this.

The 1-series, especially what we get in the US, is NOT lightweight, small, or agile. The coupe is 150lbs less than the base 3er sedan. Now, even if we start including EU models, the 1 still isn't that small or light. The wheelbase in the 118i hatch is just 100mm shy of that in the 318i. The overall length is less than 300mm (~10in for non-metric folks) shorter. The weight differential is ~200lbs. At 1365kg (3010lbs), a 118i 3-door is 300lbs lighter than the 128i coupe, which is a good start. But of course we have to factor in all the useless kit that comes with our coupes, like rain sensors, automatic this and electric that, so the weight differential is probably wider than it seems.

And for some reason, BMW decided to tune quite a fair amount of understeer into the coupe. And understeer just kills the fun out of any mountain road. The hatch may be slightly better (there seems to be a lot of comments on European reviews about how the 130i hatch is adept at power oversteer). So if we can't have tail-sliding, tire-screeching fun in a package that's significantly different from an obese 3er, what's so novel about that?
You gotta take the 1-series for what it is. The day of sub 3000 lb coupes/sedans are over. The only way to get below that weight is with a light-weight 2-seater that BMW doesn't currently offer. The Z4 is not far off from the 1-series weight. The 1 does perform better than the 3 and costs less. It is lighter, more nimble and actually rides better from the many articles I have read due to a re-worked rear suspension. I think the 1 is absolutely great. All the cabin room (front mainly here) of a larger sedan style car and faster than a Boxter around the track. Besides being just a tad heavy and pricey I think BMW hit the nail on the head with this car.
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