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Old 05-31-2008, 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by FSETH
Backpedaling??

I have no experience using a police laser gun at all. Zero. I do know that there are many types of guns. The laser jammers have a varying success rate against the different types of guns.

Here is a pretty simple definition as to how they work, A laser jammer confuses the laser gun by establishing a series of infrared pulses in front of your vehicle. If the laser gun and jammer wavelength and frequency are matched, the jammer pulses disorder the return to the laser gun The return pulse, if any, is corrupted, and the speed cannot be read.

It is pretty common knowledge that the jammer will eventually be defeated by the laser gun. All it does at best is give you time to slow down before the LEO gets a reading on you.

I don't know how it works in your state, but police can't give speeding tickets in Georgia without mesuring the speed with an approved device such as a radar or laser gun. Visual eveidence without any proof holds no water. There are many ways to get out of tickets here. Many cops use laser guns but are not lidar certified and the ticket is thrown out, also city police can't legally issue speeding citations that are less than 11 MPH over the limit in regular zones (Highway patrol can), also some speed limit signs are actually lower than the speed limit posted for that particular road in the law books and the ticket is thrown out. I have researched this heavily as far as Georgia law is concerned.

I will agree that the LEO can pull you over for just about any reason immaginable. There is just nothing they can do unless they have evidence that you were breaking a law and visual evidence for speeding is BS and if fought will more than likely be thrown out. I was personally pulled over for speeding when I was much younger by a "visual estimate" and the cop told me it was visual estimate. I was nearly doubling the speed limit. He told me he didn't have it on radar or laser and he let me go without any ticket. Not because he was a nice guy by the way.

Really don't know where you are comming from with your posts.

I was just trying to help you understand laser until it seemed like you attacked me by your bs flag. You posted alot of wrong information in this thread. I am basing my information on 15 years of actual hands on experience with police laser. If you want I can pick apart all your misinformation and flip flopping (backpedalling).

The reason a jammer is actually a shifter is the fact it attempts to deflect the return beam of the laser. The laser needs approximately 3/4 of the beam shot at the car to calculate speed and distance it was received at. Your definiton you provided is for an active radar jammer. Hopefully you already know active radar jamming is against FCC rules.

I hope you realize that a cop needs to make a visual speed estimate BEFORE he use a laser or radar. That is why his visual estimate hold more water than the laser/radar reading. You might want to read up on case law in regards to that matter. By all means if you have case law stating you should post it up and help out fellow Georgia residents.

As far as cops issuing laser tickets without being certified can you provide any proofs or links to such claims. I find it hard to believe any of the traffic attorney would not make a huge stink about that in the media. Or is that just something you heard and thought may be true. I can't see many judges, court clerks ,city councilpeople and police departments allowing such.
"There is just nothing they can do unless they have evidence that you were breaking a law and visual evidence for speeding is BS and if fought will more than likely be thrown out." So you have no proof this is another more or less guess on your part. You aren't the type that thinks pleading to a reduced charge is actually beating a speeding ticket are you?

Your last claim is just utterly ridiculous. Since you claim you were nearly double the posted speed limit unless you were in a posted 20mph zone would that not fall into the reckless driving section (25mph over posted limit or"willful" disregard for the safety of other people, including other drivers and pedestrians.) I would be quite interested in hearing how you came to the conclusion why he let you go without a ticket without being a nice guy.
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