MD - thanks! I hope everything is going well. I've been away too long, and certainly miss some of you folks.

FSETH - the CTS-V is designed to compete with the M5, not the M3. And, I am certain you have not seen the pics, or the real and in person version, of this new car. It will compete quite favorably, without the techno-wizardry.

I've pined for an M5 for more than 10 years. Now that I can afford one, it had lost its appeal. Seems rather ordinary and unexciting now.

ps - I've never started a thread that went 8 pages before. I'll have to come up with some other topic to do it again!