I called the dealer and I'm going to test drive the 20's on run flats in a few hours....I really like the wheels but am curious what "stiff" really is? I've had an IS300 on 19" Volk wheels w/ Michelin Pilot Sports and that rode really stiff but I didn't mind it. Although I guess with an SAV you would expect a cush ride...The dealer can order but not with the discount on this particular vehicle....It is a punch out and they are free to discount it as much as they want...I could get the 3.0i but it doesnt have the sport package and a few other nice options...The CW package is already on it and didn't have a problem with it....One thing I was wondering is if I could ride these wheels/tires in the VA Beach area all year round? It hardly ever snows here and doesn't get that cold so I'm thinking these will be OK for year round driving....As far as 64 and 264 go I know exactly what you mean! THey are jacked up....But in my Acura TL-S that I'm driving now, I feel every bump on those wheels too and it really doesn't bother me....

Thanks!