I think batman begins is probably the best batman movie yet... It told you how batman came to be and told a great story with a great plot, it was as believeable as a comic inspired movie could be.... in my opinion it was the whole nine yards... I enjoyed the dark knight as well, but I felt that it was going in too many directions, and they shouldn't have shown the creation and demise of two face in the same movie... there was alot more that they could have done with him in the future.. without doing the whole back from the dead, which still could come up in future batmans.. and the bike.. it was a cool escape vehicle, but he should of had something else in the stable...