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Old 09-11-2008, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by B-Line
DriverX5,

I know what you're looking for... good luck in your quest. Those dogs can be great. I was speaking in response to ZsX who suggested you get a bull terrier.

It's funny how the Bull Terrier group always cries, "it's not a Pit Bull, it's a Bull Terrier. I'm sick of the bad PR, etc. etc."
A) So, you're saying that APBT (Pit Bull Terriers) should be feared but your dogs should not.
B) Your right, your dog is not called a "PIT BULL".. But that does not negate the fact that the Bull Terrier was developed for PIT FIGHTING and other BLOOD sports like Bull and Bear hunting and killing. Hence the name "BULL".
-- I know a Bull Terrier is not the same thing as an Amer Staf, or APBT, but those are just names of the breed. They are still, PIT FIGHTING DOGS, regardless if the name PIT is attached to the breed name or not.

A PIT FIGHTING, BLOOD SPORT, dog is still that, regardless if the name "PIT" exists in the title or not. Just like a Standard Poodle is a WATER DOG, even though it's name is not, Standard Poodle Water Dog.
Firstly, what I said was "my advice is get a performance bulldog or a bull terrior/boston terrier if you are a responsible owner." because I love them and they aren't riddled with health problems like the deformed & spoiled pet & toy breeds of today.

Second, a bull terrior can reference a variety of breeds. There is the Bull Terrior (or English Bull Terrior), Staffordshire Bull Terrior, Amercian Staffordshire Terrior, and American Pit Bull Terrior, to name a few.

3rd I did not say anyone should fear APBT's. My Dog is indeed called a pit bull, by many. We (UKC & ADBA purebred owners) often use the term. But should people fear my dog? Absolutely not. It was NOT bred for fighting, and I am a responsible dog owner. The problem with name association is that the term "Pit Bull" is thrown around to describe any half breed mutt who bites someone in the ghetto. Let's face it, it makes for a better news story rather than "strange looking mutt with a big head attacks".

I would challenge anyone who has a problem with bull & terrier breeds to accomplish the titles I have with my dog. Even a temperament test. Do you have any idea what that title means? A temperament test is a series of tests in which you must pass without any negative marks. The tests include meeting a series of strangers; friendly, aggressive, and neutral. As well strangers popping umbrellas in your dogs face and a starter pistol fired within 10 feet of where he or she is. If your dog has any negative reactions you fail the test. There is no doubt a problem with pit bulls today but that problem lies with the owners. Buying any "pit bull" without having extensive knowledge of the breed characteristics and responsiblities would be like me ordering a pure bred alaskan sled dog and keeping him in Florida on a chain. Do you think that dog will be bored? Maybe he will bite someone out of frustration. The problem is with the owners.

You are right that many bull and terrior breeds descend from origins in blood sport, but to assume they're all bred for that today is rediculous. The lineage of my dog consists of over 3 decades of titled working dogs in many areas of public service and extensive health testing. This is a world that you are not familiar with. What you are familiar with is those that make the news. So the truth is you know as much about pure bred Bull and Terrior breeds as you do the portuguese water dog, or any other pure breed for that matter.
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