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Old 09-19-2008, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by lakai
Before all this subprime mess, people took more consideration when it comes to where to buy a home. People that bought homes 20+ years ago and have done their part in creating stable income for the state. So far Prop 13 is has been a good thing. Throwing it out the window would be a big mistake. Your line of thinking promotes instability and is just selfish hater mentality. You are very narrow minded on a lot of subjects and hardly ever try to understand both sides of situations.

So you want people who have been able to keep their homes for all these years to all of the sudden risk losing them because you as a new home buyer feel it is unfair ? Let's just kick out grandpa and grandma who have done their struggling to keep their home out on the street right? Just so it will be fair to you. The economic problems we face today is nothing that other generations haven't been through already. In fact, what is going on right now will be the second time the baby boomer generation will be in trouble. I doubt that a recall of Prop 13 would make that much more, in fact I'm betting that you would have to pay less. If roads and school systems were so important to you, maybe you should have thought about it before you decided to move there. Its no ones fault but your own to pay top dollar for a home in the ghetto.
Gee Lakai,

Seems like someone is carrying around some baggage.. Did I hurt your feelings? Maybe we can hug it out.. Come on, give us a kiss.

As far as me being narrow minded, that would insinuate that I don't explore other sides of the issue. As usual, Lakai, you are VERY wrong. I make informed decisions based on information and furthermore, am very open to changing my position if information comes along that makes me think otherwise. And there is also a big difference between understanding both sides of an argument and agreeing with both sides of an argument.
-- In almost every argument, both sides have a good reason for supporting their decision. And when deciding where to stand on an issue, I look at at both sides and make a decision on what side of the issue I think is most important. - Is it better for the individual or better for masses? Is it fair? Is it equal? Do the ends justify the means?

I use the term grandpa because it's the people who have been in their homes 30 plus years that are most benefitting from Prop 13. I'm not using it to be derogatory, I'm using to describe a demographic that has been subsidized. But you are right, re-reading my posts, it does seem as a slam even though it wasn't meant to be. Good job Lakai, you made me change a point of view from now on I will use the term Baby Boomer instead. (more politically correct, even though you have stated in many posts that you already feel I'm the PC police.)

Next issue... I'm not a new home buyer. I've been in my Hollywood Hills home for six years. It's more than doubled in value but my taxes have stayed the same. - And if you want to use the term ghetto which means pocket of ethnic area, yes, you are right, there are other Jews in the area besides me. We even have some other minorities like African Americans and lots of Asians and Hispanics.. I don't expect to see you visiting these areas much because you have made it clear how you feel about minorities... Or do I need to quote you again?

Secondly, if you bothered to read much, you would see that I suggested that at the very least, taxes should increase at a rate equal to inflation.

Prop 13 has been a plague on this state's economy and further incentives people not to move. I would be okay with a plan that helped people stay in their houses if they wanted to stay, but a plan that makes it more expensive for than to move to a more practical situation is just ANTI PROGRESSIVE. It inhibits areas of, new development and redevelopment. Old sewers, old power-lines, old homes, equal big problems down the road. It's mortgaging the future with huge interest rates.

Lastly, Prop 13 also can be handed down to family members. Effectively seizing all practical amounts of real estate taxes indefinitely.

-- So while you might think I'm narrow minded, obnoxious, etc. Maybe you should stop projecting your own inability to both extract and deliver rational thought..
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