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Old 09-20-2008, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Krimson X
Nope. I quoted it like it was reported. I acknowledged Obama's Fannie and Freddie political contacts. I even acknowledged Obama's receipt of funds from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. So you cannot say that I inferred that Obama has ZERO political links to Fannie and Freddie.



I responded directly to Wagner's "half-truth" post about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

As far as Rev. Wright (to which Obama has offered as fair game during this political season) and others, I offer this:

If you are McCain or Gov. Palin it is ok to attend churches over the years whose pastors say that people who voted for John Kerry or merely criticize George W. Bush are going to hell, and that the U.S. is an explicitly Christian nation and the job of Christians is to bring Christian theological principles into government, and who bring in speakers who say the conflict in the Middle East is God’s punishment on Jews for rejecting Jesus, and everyone can still think you’re just a good church-going Christian, but if you’re Obama and friends with a Rev. Wright who has noted (as have Colin Powell and the U.S. Department of Defense) that terrorist attacks are often the result of U.S. foreign policy and who talks about the history of racism and its effect on black people, you’re an extremist who probably hates America.

If you are Gov. Palin it is ok to have a husband who was a member of an extremist political party that wants your state to secede from the Union, and whose motto was “Alaska first,” and no one questions your patriotism or that of your family, while if you're Obama everyone questions your patriotism because you do not wear a flag lapel pin or becaues you have a tenuous link to William Ayers.
Nothing I said was half-true....but party fans do like to makes stuff up.
Unless of course you can produce actual data that shows Obama doesn't rank number 2 in taking money from Fannie/Freddie and doesn't have former F/F staff on his sidelines It's a shame, some had such high hopes of Obama being different. I know I did about a year ago. Sad to see he is the same, or conceivably worse, then every other politician.

Oh and Lakai, I'll sum up the 'reasons' for you: "I don't like McCain" and...um...that was it.

MD and Quick, I can sympathize But you have to believe that after 8 years of Bush, this election would be a sparring session I just wish people could address the facts without feeling the overwhelming need to supply a competing piece of information to try to null out the other. Kind of like kids in a sandbox "why did you take Jimmy's shovel, well...he took my ball last week".
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