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Old 10-03-2008, 05:02 AM
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Now I actually posted a near transcript of the debate as it happened. Take a glimpse at the SPIN the media is putting together. Remember, what I posted, aside from my very first opinions in the beginning, was nearly verbatim of the candidate in the time/order it happened. See if the media spin is anything like the truth:

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10...-mates-debate/

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/...ate/index.html

"He decided he was not gonna take her on directly," MSNBC's David Gregory said. "She challenged him, she mocked him, she chided him. He decided to train his responses and just talk about (John) McCain's record."

"Sarah Palin was threatening to become an embarrassment to the Republican ticket," CNN analyst David Gergen said. "I think she erased that tonight."

"You're not going to see this debate have much of an effect on this race," NBC News analyst Chuck Todd said. "This probably won't live much beyond a 24-hour period."

Republican strategist Mike Murphy, on MSNBC, said the debate "became a bit of a nothing-burger."

"The problem for John McCain is this doesn't change the dynamics of the race, which have shifted in Obama's favor," Gergen said.

The BBC's Jane O'Brien in Washington says Mrs Palin played to her strengths and her image as a mother in touch with ordinary Americans.
For the most part she spoke fluently but simply about the economy, climate change and the war in Iraq, our correspondent says, and there were few of the stumbling gaffes that have become the staple of late-night comedy shows.

Mrs Palin, governor of energy-rich Alaska, said human activities were a factor in climate change but that climatic cycles were also an element. She urged US energy independence as part of the answer.
Mr Biden pointed to climate change as one of the major points on which the two campaigns differed, saying: "If you don't understand what the cause is, it's virtually impossible to come up with a solution." - Note that BBC left out the part where Biden said Climate change was only caused by humans.





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Notables:
Biden said Obama never said he would meet with leaders without preconditions
Quote:
In a Democratic debate last summer, the candidates were asked whether they would be "willing to meet separately, without precondition, during the first year of your administration, in Washington or anywhere else, with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea, in order to bridge the gap that divides our countries?"

"I would. And the reason is this, that the notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them -- which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration -- is ridiculous," Obama answered
One thing that kept getting tossed back and forth was "support for the troops":

Quote:
On May 24, 2007, Obama was one of 14 senators who voted against a war-spending plan that would have provided emergency funds for American troops overseas.
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