I wasn't trying to insult you, JCL. I know you are an intelligent person.

Can we both agree that Obama has very close ties to Acorn and Acorn, whether convicted of anything or not, has been involved in fraud over the past 20 years or so? Obama helped Acorn out in a lawsuit in the mid 1990's when Acorn filed a suit against the state of Illinios and he taught or was invited to teach Acorn training classes.

Both sides do get money from places like Fannie Mae, but from what I have read, Obama was near the top of the list on how much people were paid.

The quote of Michelle Obama was from a very credible news source and I didn't manipulate any of the words. I don't know what else to say about that one.

Also, according to multiple sites, Obama did remove all flags from his plane and replace them with his personalized logo's. Check out the before and after photos here;

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/airplane.asp

Otherwise, there is no disputing what Bidden said about him being tested, his relationship with a racist reverend, his lack of experience, him not putting his hand over his heart for the National Anthem, Him saying he had been to 57 states and had one to go, his personal statement on wanting to spread the wealth around and so on.