Originally Posted by JCL

Not sure what to add here, but here goes. Making this up as I go....

FSETH, you originally posted an email that has been widely discredited. Individual bullet points in it are nonsense.

That is not quite true. That was not an e-mail that I recieved and posted. These were things about the man that I don't personally like and I wrote them out. You can spin some of them any way you personally choose.

They are the easy ones to pick out, using sites like factcheck.org. Interestingly, the snopes link you provided proved the point that Obama did not strip his plane of American flags, he removed two trademarked symbols belonging to North American Airlines and kept the US flags on the fuselage.

Not true, he removed one flag on each side of the tail for a total of 2 flags. That is also in the snopes article. You can also look at the before and after photos. I alerady said I was wrong about the two near the front of the plane as they were regestered logos.

Yes, Obama had a relationship with Wright. However, when an email smear has a dozen or so claims, and 10 or so are absurd, the one or two that may be deserving of debate get lost in the noise.

Actually, I posted about 12 items and only a couple can be disputed. His relationship with Raines and Bill Ayers may be questionable and that is my fault. Otherwise;

Did he have a 20+ year relationship with a racist Reverend and only decide to disassociate himself weeks after the media got ahold of it and it looked bad for him?

Yes.

Did he pocket some of the most substantial funds as a senator or congressman from Fannie Mae?

Yes.

Were all of the flags removed from his plane?

Yes.

Did he say he wants to spread the wealth around?

Yes.

Did his wife say what I quoted her saying?

Yes.

Did he say he had been to 57 states and had one to go?

Yes.

Was he on video without his hand over his heart for the National Anthem?

Yes.

Did Bidden say we would be tested shortly after Obama took office?

Yes.

Does Obama's relationship with Acorn go bak about 13 years?

Yes.

Does OBAMA have close ties to ACORN? Not in my opinion. I previously addressed the point about the two one-hour classes he taught for their volunteers (I didn't get an answer to my question as to whether that is considered to be teaching people how to fraudulently register voters). Working as a lawyer for them doesn't make him guilty of anything, otherwise we would have to prosecute half the lawyers in the world (hold your opinions on that one, lol).

Once again his relationship with Acorn goes back 13 years. Having any affiliation with them at all is too much, IMO. It is insignificant to me that "they have not been convicted of anything" as you say. His association with them is not a good quality, IMO.

and context about Michelle Obama's comments. Well documented. No, she didn't say she has never been proud of her country before, IMO. I heard her say that she is now (ie, at this time) really proud of her country because of the opportunities available. It has been taken out of context. Again, my opinion, but you asked.

Here is her quote again from her speech in Milwaukee copied word for word;

"for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback."

she said the following in Madison;

"For the first time in my adult lifetime, I'm really proud of my country, and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change."

Spin how you wish.

Bidden said Obama would be tested, absolutely. Clumsy speech. I happen to think that whoever is elected will get tested. What Bidden was saying is that there are tough times ahead, and your leader is going to need support for what may be some unpopular decisions.

What Biden said and your interpretation may be two different things. He said Obama in his speech, not anyone else. It was said by Biden and directed to Obama and his supporters. Once again, spin how you wish.

Hope that answers your questions.