Saying that someone "needs to get their head out of their a$$" is not what I call debating. Having been on the receiving end of similar comments many times on this board, I can say that it's uncalled for. Maybe you should post some links and state some facts or opinions rather than call the other guy names. Not only is it more polite, but if your argument is actually a good one, you may actually change someone's mind. Imagine that...