I'm just going to say one last thought on all of this, and then I think we're all talked out here:

I know that when we Americans talk about the Israeli/Palestinean situation, we think that the #1 priority of these people is the politics and conflict at hand. But actually, if you speak to people, you will find that most people of all nationalities and religions worldwide care more about basic things such as food, shelter, a good economy, a good job, safety, education for their kids, etc.

In countries where living conditions are good, the majority of people rarely even turn out to vote in elections, nor do most care what the results of those elections are. It's only when things get bad do people suddenly care about politics. Things are bad now in our economy and we have two wars going on, so we had record turnout in this last election. But ask people who they voted for in 1996, and you'll find that many people did not even vote.

Well, once again that is not just an American phenomenon. That is a human phenomenon. You may ask "what's the point of all of this?".

The point is that for the majority of Palestineans, if life was good for them, and they had jobs, food, a place to live, education for their kids, etc.....then they would not give a crap about Israel, nor would they pay any attention to violent extremist groups who advocate Israel's destruction.

The only reason people are training their kids to be suicide bombers is because things are so bad for them. In Gaza there is 75% unemployement. I'll say that again....75% unemployement. Here in the US, people are crying about 6% unempoyment. Imagine what things would look like at 75% unemployement. Furthermore, people do not have electricity in much of Gaza. People do not have enough food to eat. And this is not just in the last week. It has been this way for about 2 years now. And when things are bad, people will listen to anyone who says they have a way to fix it, even the most violent extremists.

Israel's only way to fix this is to come up with a strategy that results in a better quality of life for the Palestineans.

B-Line: Thoughout this entire thread, you continue to tell me why my suggestions won't work. What you have not done is tell me what you think Israel should do to achieve peace.

So lay out your plan. If you were in charge of Israel, what would you do, and how long do you estimate it would take to achieve peace?

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