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Originally Posted by Eric5273
The point is that for the majority of Palestineans, if life was good for them, and they had jobs, food, a place to live, education for their kids, etc.....then they would not give a crap about Israel, nor would they pay any attention to violent extremist groups who advocate Israel's destruction.
The only reason people are training their kids to be suicide bombers is because things are so bad for them.
B-Line: Thoughout this entire thread, you continue to tell me why my suggestions won't work. What you have not done is tell me what you think Israel should do to achieve peace.
So lay out your plan. If you were in charge of Israel, what would you do, and how long do you estimate it would take to achieve peace?
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Eric,
WHile I would like to agree with your opinion that the only reason people are training their kids to be suicide bombers is because things are so bad for them, unfortunately your statement does not hold truth.
The majority of the terrorists that attacked on 9/11 were Saudi, educated and wealthy. Osama Bin Laden is an extraordinarily wealthy man and so are many of the people that fund terrorism.
The reason a lot of these people turn themselves into walking bombs is because they feel as though they will be rewarded in heaven in doing so. They are believers, fundamentalists, who are raised to believe that their sacrifice in life in the name of Allah will award them a place in heaven.
Their families get paid when they commit acts of terrorism and they are then worshiped in the forms of posters and memorials.
To them, it is to be a hero to sacrifice their lives in the name of religion in an effort to end the Jewish state.
There is no reasonable expectation that the hatred for the Jews and the Jewish state will diminish even with the donations of lands. There was violence for thousands of years before Israel against Jews and it will continue even after the possibility of some peace agreements.
The only reasonable solution at this time is to have a stronger army, with better weapons with higher education and intelligence. And everytime a new group of anti-zionists pops up and starts attacking, annihilate them. And if they hide behind schools as they launch their rockets, then it is they who have killed the children, not the Israelis.
But supporting these groups and not getting behind Israel only gives them strength. And that is what you are doing and much of Europe. You have given them reason to continue attacking Israel in the form of protests.
Israel is just trying to survive. It's not now nor has ever wanted the destruction of a Arab/Muslim territory. But if that Arab/Muslim territory only seeks to destroy Israel, then Israel must be preemptive and decisive.
If the rest of the world really gives a shit, let them help the Palestinians by doing ANYTHING other than condemning Israel.
Israel is not the bad guy. Israel is just a bunch of Jews and Arabs, trying to survive in an area, surrounded by people who want it's destruction. And while some of their measures may be extreme, they are necessary to the security of the state.