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Old 01-26-2009, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by B-Line
They were once offered their freedom, with the lands in the West Bank and Gaza, yet they chose to decline it in an effort to destroy Israel.
The offer was a bunch of tiny lands which were not connected. It was like swiss cheese with the holes being the Palestinean state.


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Or do you mean freedom to travel in and out of Israel without restriction? Cause it seems to me that Israel used to allow that, until the Palestinians used that freedom as a vessel to attack Israel.
No, I mean being allowed to travel from one place in the Palestinean state to another without restriction.



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Or by freedom, do you mean to inhabit buildings that were developed by the settlers, were before, there were no buildings?
Nope, not that.



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Or by freedom, do you mean that Israeli soldiers should stop visiting homes that have a technical, strategic overlook to observe and monitor what is going on with their enemies?
Yes, people are not free as long as foreign soldiers can enter their homes without permission at any time.



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Or by freedom, do you mean the freedom to continue their war with Israel after they are given control of the West Bank?
Nope. You are always going to have your extremists who act against the law, but any peace deal must include the Palestinean government's full cooperation to minimize any such attacks and arrest and prosecute anyone who breaks the law. Currently the Palestinean government is the West Bank has been doing this. Many Hamas soldiers are in their prisons.



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Or by freedom, do you mean the freedom to have rockets sent into areas like Gaza using tunnels through Egypt?
I mean freedom to have their own country, which includes having a military just like any other country does.



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What if the Jewish settlers don't want to move? What if they want to stay in the dwellings and areas where they live? Should the Palestinians have the freedom to evict them? Kill them? Maybe stick them in the ovens and make pillows out of their hair? Or do you mean the freedom to perform inhumane surgical operations on the settlers?

If Arabs can live in Jewish lands, why can't Jews live in Arab lands?
I think any peace deal should allow the settlers to stay, but those lands will indeed become part of Palestine, so the settlers must understand that they are no longer living in Israel. As has happened in the past, I'm sure Israel will offer them financial compensation for their homes if they choose to move back into Israel.


The issue discussed in that 60 minutes peace above is that if you were to look at a map of the settlements, you cannot carve a continuous Palestinean country out of the West Bank without including many of the settlements. Obviously having the West Bank and Gaza, you are in a situation like the United States having Alaska. And obviously Israel is free to impose restrictions on travel through Israel in order for Palestineans to move between the two territories. But people living in one territory or the other must be free to move within that territory. Currently people cannot even leave their town without waiting 5 and 6 hours at a dozen checkpoints in order to get through. Impose that on any country and the economy will grind to a halt, which is what has happened in the West Bank over the past 5 years.
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