I like some of the designs Bangle supervised, and I hate some of them with a passion. In the end though I think that, love or hate, his designs were always interesting and that put him and BMW ahead of the rest. If Bangle hadn't been there to push the envelope I dread to think how boring cars of today would have been.

Case in point - If I wasn't able to piss and moan about how the new 7 looks like a hideous whale trawling for plankton, Bangle would have failed because it would have 'just been another car' otherwise and thats far worse than being ugly.

For that I would hope that people would stop bashing him - just think of the alternative.

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- Ravenheart