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Originally Posted by JCL
I haven't figured out how it is unethical. They even told you before you bothered driving down there, saving you the trip.
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It's unethical because they are trying to use an old salesman trick to try to increase their profitability. They don't want you to price shop, they don't want you to compare their rates with other banks or dealers. They are trying to sell cars on the basis of a hard line sell. And in my experience, that's unethical. And misinformed buyers, such as people who don't visit car forums like we do, fall prey to the victim of dealers who play this non-sense. But I can smell that shit like a fart in car.
And, here is an example of two people thinking about buying an American product but being pushed out by the dealers...
Also, they did not volunteer the information, we told them we were coming in for a test drive and to have a car ready. "Well, we can let you test drive it, after we agree to the deal."
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Originally Posted by JCL
What I said is that the car business is changing. I would be interested in knowing why they are not allowing test drives. Either they don't need to, they can't, or they don't want to.
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Nay, Nay, Nay.. They do need to. The American car business is in shambles. No car is beyond the downturn. Why is my tax bailout going to these a-holes.. Morons couldn't sell a glass of water to a dying man in the desert. But they think they're going to "sell me..."
They can't... Also bullshit. They can. They just know that they can try to squeeze more money out of a sale by pretending they are doing some sort of favor by actually allowing me to even sit in the car. It's a freaking Cadillac for christ sake, not a Pagani Zonda! It's a cheap sales trick and that's exactly the type of cheap, unethical bullshit that is ruining the American car companies..
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Originally Posted by JCL
You assumed it was because they were idiots, and they very well may be, but there is the chance that they either don't need to, or can't. That's all. It is all a bit of a moot point IMO, since a very large percentage of dealers, and a couple of major automakers, are about to go broke anyway.
If they are that unethical, stupid, low quality, untrained, classless, unpleasant, slimy, and represent a crappy brand, it seems you would be happier with that German brand anyway.
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<--- Correct, please see my garage. 2 Porsche's, 1 Bmw, 1 Audi.. Thank you. Why? Cause American car companies SUCK.