I never said the X5 as bad as the ML. I was trying to make a point that generally, German designed vehicles are a butt load more stable than their counterparts.

S500 vs LS430 on the same road (there is a specific on ramp I have in mind, if you live in Sugarland ask me and I'll tell you about it), the S500 comes out on top feelings a boat load more stable than the LS430 unless the LS430 is in Sport mode.

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