LL,
Ah, yes...we Colonists are argumentative, arbitrary and crazy.

Back at the Debate Ranch, the thread vis a vis its original title was
debated ad nauseum, imo, and was in some aspects, a "solution"
in search of a not yet reported "problem", or occurrence, imo, Like
most threads, after some good points were offered, by all sides, it got a
little sideways.

I'm going to bookmark the thread and resurrect it, when we start reading
of BMWs and, X5s in particular, exhibiting some unintended acceleration/
unintended throttle response.
BR, mD