
08-26-2010, 02:33 AM
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Did a bit of digging and found this explanation of the issue. The poster owns a 535d which has the same GA6HP26Z ZF tranny as the E53 4.4 X5.
Steptronic Slam is Back - 5 Series Forums
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This morning I took my car out with an engineer from ZF (who make the transmission) heis seconded to BMW UK to troubleshoot transmission issues.
He connected up a diagnostic kit to the plug in the drivers footwell to monitor the tranny whilst I drove.
We were able to reproduce the 'slam' to order by slowing to about 3 mph gradually and then just before coming to a halt, accelerating fairly briskly.
Almost every time the revs went up and after a delay the car picked up the drive and shot forward.
We could also reproduce another behaviour. When going down a steep hill, causing acceleration due to gravity with foot off throttle, touch and release the brakes. The car downshifts 2 gears, giving high revs, then accelerate again and you get quite harsh upshifts.
His explanation of the 'slam' was as follows.
The transmission is working 'normally'. The shift point is set up with a stop/go system so that as you drive in traffic the car does not drop below 2nd gear. This enables a smooth progress without unnessecary shifts into 1st. The normal pick up with gentle acceleration is easily achieved in 2nd.
The consequence of this set up is that if you suddenly ask the car for high acceleration levels it detects that it cannot achieve this in 2nd and selects 1st with a consequent delay. This has been measured by ZF as about 0.75 seconds, though he accepted it often feels a lot longer.
I pointed out that when pulling out into traffic which is travelling at 50mph, on oncoming car travels at 75 feet per second, so 0.75 of a second delay is not good news.
The only solution to the issue is to reset the shift points so that the car always selects 1st when the speed drops, this however would mean a huge number of 1>2 > 1 shifts in stop start traffic giving a poor ride and the risk of harsh low speed shifts.
The problem is exacerbated in larger diesel engines due to the high torque and the slight turbo delay.
The same process is present in petrol engines but is felt much less due to the faster response of the engine to the throttle and the lower torque at lower revs. hence it is often viewed as a diesel only problem. The greater the torque the more noticeable the behaviour. This explains why the 530D and 545i and up raise complaints whilst the 520i and 525D seem less prone.
The only way to mitigate the issue is to select DS which forces selection of 1st at low speeds, but be aware that you will feel harsher 2>1 shifts in traffic.
Every 5 series 'suffers' as do Jaguars, Audi's and others but due to different driving styles and road environments, some drivers will notice it more than others. It is especially noticeable if you are a frequent user of roundabouts where you often approach at a very slow speed the accelerate without coming to a full halt.
The downhill behaviour is due to the software detecting acceleration whilst also detecting a braking signal. It interprets this as brake failure and, as a safety system, initiates downshifts to provide engine braking.
The bottom line is that currently there is no 'solution' to the 'slam' issue, there is no software update beyond 17.10 that will have any direct effect on the tranny behaviour, though he does not rule out that at some time in the future there may be changes. There is nothing currently on the radar.
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