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X5rolls · #58 11-20-2010, 12:32 PM

MD - I'm in agreement with you on this (like other things too :-) ) and think something different can and should be done.

I've given this some thought and have come to the conclusion that the Israelis have the right approach. They do proper analysis gathering and make that information available to the airport personnel so intelligent or informed decisions can be made.

If you are a person of this origin, or have recently come from this country, or have a name like this or that is on a particular portion of the overall list you will get interviewed or screened and then additional searches are done as necessary. The entire population of travelers still goes through security screening but not everyone has to go through the same process. Everyone gets there with enough time to be processed, so the analysis can be included in the decision making.

With the excellent track record they have, especially with all the extremists who want nothing more than to kill as many Jewish Israelis as possible they have covered this ground decades ago.

Because profiling is so un PC here, we are more likely to allow a person who objects to being x-rayed or a pat down based on religious convictions to be given an exception. Janet Napolitano our Homeland Security Cabinet Member has said that exceptions are granted in some cases due to this. Unbelievable unto itself actually.

Let's re-think the problem and not go off with a host of un-necessary things that are felt to avoid profiling as possible but are not effective or efficient or just ham-handed gov't procedures.

Bottom line is we can't let someone bring weapons/bombs/etc. onto a plane. But that doesn't mean we can't be smart about this, take others best practices and apologize to those who don't like being profiled for safety reasons.

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Originally Posted by motordavid

The rigorous patdowns are being done, "randomly", even if one has gone through the body scanner; and, if one refuses the BS, I have read/heard from friends, that the patdowns are very rigorous and overly thorough.

Our 7 1/2 yr granddaughter waltzed through the metal detector(s) at the Asheville airport, but was 'selected' and pulled aside for a patdown, (though not of the crotch feel-up method); this happened over Labor Day weekend when she was going back to EWR after visiting us. She thought it was funny, we thought it was utter bullshit.

As for the EL Al system, do some reading: they have security, trained and paid much better than the TSA ex-burger flippers, and the "questioning techniques" are very well done, as is the profiling. And, from friends that have flown to Israel in the past year, one has to get to airport hours in advance. So, it is not quite as efficient, time-wise, as that vid suggests.

The Jihad azzholes are sitting in their caves, laughing up their sleeves, over this new "technological level" of "security", imo. I am not anti-scan, but it is a pricey artificial fix, that will not hold off the bad guys...back at the Flying Ranch, air cargo, even on commercial flights, is a ticking b o m b.

I feel for ChillyWilly and anyone that has to fly regularly; I did too, but mostly pre-9-11, and seldom fly now, as a retired bum. I used to stroll on at EWR or JFK or LGA, with about 2 mins to spare, my upgrade and Conti or United Plat card in hand. I cannot imagine flying several times per week, now, for a living.
GL, mD

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