yeah i think i might have to lean towards one of those kits....i just didn't wanna spend 300 on a kit when i can spend a bit more and get a deck...that was really my concern...now i'm stuck with a dash kit cause the shop had to order it...argh...lesson learned.....anyone need a dash kit...give me whatever, even though the shop here charged me 60 bucks for it, the metra kit....didn't have time to snag one from ebay.....