Originally Posted by ard

Never called you or anyone else a moron.

Just said use the LATCH if you ARE a moron and cannot figure out how to belt a seat in properly. You get to decide if you are using it because you are a moron or some other reason, ok? Enough with the woe-is-me, everyone is so offended attitude. Grow a pair and discuss the ISSUE on it's merits- not how someone called someone a name.

However, you said you actually went to a firestation to ask these automotive geniuses their expert opinions.... so who can questions such arbiters of safety, right? They said it is "welded in" and "must be safe" since "it is federally mandated".

I wont argue one of those points you seem to make for a simple reason: we are not discussing of it is safe or not, but rather IS IT "safer" than a properly fastened seatbelt!

... Everyone keeps repeating "LATCH is safer" and pretty soon everyone, including firemen, believe it must be safer. (Just like idiots at tire stores are absolutely convinced that Nitrogen fill is safer and better...)

Find something IN WRITING (from a federally recognized safety organization, IHTSA, NHTSA, etc) that states a LATCH connection has been tested to be SAFER than a properly connected belt and I will "wholeheartedly and unequivocally" apologize.

(In fact, for larger kids, the LATCH has a lower rating than seatbelts...which, guess what?, are WELDED TO THE CAR'S STRUCTURE..and must hold MUCH more force than a kids seat LATCH connection! Surprise?)

You wont find it. All you'll find is "the latch system is easier for unskilled people to use and therefore it is always the system that we must recommend to the unwashed masses."

I can be rude and can be arrogant- but I admit when I am wrong, and appreciate the education. Love to hear there is data somewhere prove latch is safer... go find it and make me eat these words.

Sorry if you don't like my tact, or lack thereof... I find that bringing people up short sometimes gets there attention....

So.

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